In a recent episode of The Ellen Fisher Podcast, pro-life board-certified OB/GYN Dr. Monique Ruberu and pro-choice dual-certified nurse midwife and psychiatric mental health nurse practitioner Lynn Wolf debated whether induced abortion — the direct and intentional killing of preborn children — is ever medically necessary. Fisher’s podcast asked the question: “Will abortion bans prevent women from getting the care that they need?”
Both women appeared to agree that pro-life laws do not and would not prevent pregnant women from receiving medical care.
Fisher began by explaining that she was connected with Ruberu who was interested in discussing that question with another medical professional, but when Fisher set out to find one, she was “ignored by many” pro-abortion doctors, and “one of them even flat out said it was unethical to even have this discussion” and that the “discussion itself could be harmful.” She was about to give up on having the debate when Wolf said she would participate.
What is an abortion?
Fisher asked the two women to each define what an abortion is.
Ruberu answered, “Abortion is the intentional ending of life of a pre-born human being.”
Wolf said, “I only slightly disagree on that because abortion, I mean there’s therapeutic abortion and spontaneous abortion. So any loss of a pregnancy whether intentionally instigated or not is considered in medical terminology to be abortion.”
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